The Cake and the Rain by Jimmy Webb (a memoir)

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Re: The Cake and the Rain by Jimmy Webb (a memoir)

Postby Blair N. Cummings » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:14 am

Brief interview in Rolling Stone:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/featu ... ra-w476622
Am I the only one surprised to learn that this thing is still being published?

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Re: The Cake and the Rain by Jimmy Webb (a memoir)

Postby pljms » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:40 am

Martin Johnson wrote:It seems that for us in dear old Blighty the book is only available on import, at least for the time being. 

You can just imagine in early 1969 Peggy Lipton's record producer Lou Adler asking Jimmy Webb for something along the same lines of his most recent hit song 'Wichita Lineman' and Webb doing his upmost to oblige, even to the extent of including the words 'county' and 'line' In the title. Webb also arranged and conducted the session but despite that the single failed to crack the US Hot 100, in fact it didn't even 'bubble under':

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=55C_0TdfBak


Peggy Lipton's recording of 'Red Clay County Line' could only have come from that 67-69 period, for the song itself and the arrangement featuring the musicians who became known as The Wrecking Crew. As usual Joe Osborne's bass is very distinctive and was such a trademark of Jimmy Webb's late 60s songs and arrangements.
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Re: The Cake and the Rain by Jimmy Webb (a memoir)

Postby Martin Johnson » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:48 pm

I see that one reviewer for Webb's memoir described his writing style as being influenced by Raymond Chandler.

Another Webb curiosity, this one from 1970 that in cricketing terms 'failed to trouble the scorers'. Steve Ellis was the soulful lead singer in the English group The Love Affair who had two or three big hits in the UK, including 'Everlasting Love'. I remember the ads in the music press for Ellis's single 'Evie' made a lot of the fact that the song was by Jimmy Webb, even going as far as calling it his 'latest classic song'. Contains the typical Webb line, "if time was half a nice guy we might have made a nice try."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fxehYnv0dBk
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Re: The Cake and the Rain by Jimmy Webb (a memoir)

Postby blueonblue » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:06 am

Martin Johnson wrote:I see that one reviewer for Webb's memoir described his writing style as being influenced by Raymond Chandler.

Another Webb curiosity, this one from 1970 that in cricketing terms 'failed to trouble the scorers' Steve Ellis was the soulful lead singer in the English group The Love Affair who had two or three big hits in the UK, including 'Everlasting Love'. I remember the ads in the music press for Ellis's single 'Evie' made a lot of the fact that the song was by Jimmy Webb, even going as far as calling it his 'latest classic song'. Contains the typical Webb line, "if I was half a nice guy we might have made a nice try."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fxehYnv0dBk


Martin,
Thank you for posting that rarely heard Webb song, Steve Ellis is a much underrated singer, he reminds me a little of Chris Farlowe.
Here's the Johnny Mathis version.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q070TXO5DFw

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Re: The Cake and the Rain by Jimmy Webb (a memoir)

Postby Blair N. Cummings » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:22 am

Not to engage in overkill, but here`s the Bill Medley version, the story of which features prominently in the book:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybdayoj2IG4

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Re: The Cake and the Rain by Jimmy Webb (a memoir)

Postby Martin Johnson » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:06 am

Yes, 'Evie' is definitely one of those songs that after you've heard it a few times lodge themselves in your subconscious and stay there. The only other sung version of the song that I know of is by a close-harmony group called Revival. At the risk of over-egging the omelette, here's an instrumental version by - wait for it - James Last:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-y2HssevxI

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Re: The Cake and the Rain by Jimmy Webb (a memoir)

Postby Sara D » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:50 am

I remember in the early 70s or thereabouts my elder brother, who was a big soul and R'n'B fan, playing Thelma Houston's album 'Sunshower' every day for about a month and me, not being aware of the Webb connection, making some dumb remark about how some of it reminded me of 'MacArthur Park' (well, I was only 12 or 13 at the time). It's difficult to pick a favourite track but this one will do. What an extraordinary voice this woman has:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0x9S0ylr8W0

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Re: The Cake and the Rain by Jimmy Webb (a memoir)

Postby pljms » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:18 am

Sara, for "dumb" read astute.

Of all the albums written, arranged and produced by Jimmy Webb in the 60s Thelma Houston's 'Sunshower' is the one I return to the most. When you consider that Webb was still only 22 and Houston just turned 23 when the album was recorded it makes it even more of a remarkable achievement. With the over-elaborate intro and outro edited out, here's 'Mixed-Up Girl' which remains a fave Webb song of mine.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-jZyDoFu3Zw
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