Most complex Bacharach song ever

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Most complex Bacharach song ever

Postby nowmedical » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:26 pm

So colleagues, what do you think it is most complex BB song ever? You will all say Promises Promises with its changing time signatures, but I'd like to propose Captives of the Heart - layer after layer of sound and rhythms.

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Re: Most complex Bacharach song ever

Postby blueonblue » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:47 pm

nowmedical wrote:So colleagues, what do you think it is most complex BB song ever? You will all say Promises Promises with its changing time signatures, but I'd like to propose Captives of the Heart - layer after layer of sound and rhythms.


Very difficult to pin just one down, but these have some very complex chord changes.....whoever labelled Bacharach's music as 'easy listening' ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo8yfbFlKFk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zZDgBZFePI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5FiIpBt0oU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3TQNLcBiDU

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Re: Most complex Bacharach song ever

Postby face » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:06 am

I'm going with "Is There Another Way To Love You" and "Looking With My Eyes." Both are beyond any mere mortal's imagination.

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Re: Most complex Bacharach song ever

Postby face » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:12 am

nowmedical wrote:So colleagues, what do you think it is most complex BB song ever? You will all say Promises Promises with its changing time signatures, but I'd like to propose Captives of the Heart - layer after layer of sound and rhythms.


"Captives" is a nice song, and certainly complex, but it doesn't rank with Burt's most adventurous compositions. It's lacking that signature "tautness" of his best work.

I just posted that "Is There Another Way to Love You" and "Looking With My Eyes" are my votes, but I just remembered the songs he did with Dionne in 1974: "And Then You Know What He Did' and "He Walked Right Through the Door." Try singing along with either of them the first few times!

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Re: Most complex Bacharach song ever

Postby Blair N. Cummings » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:11 am

I agree with face regarding those `74 recordings. Burt was becoming more adventurous than ever until he pulled a hissy fit and walked away. It almost seems an act of masochism that, after one pretty good album with her, he allowed Carole Bayer-Sager to water down his compositions until they were predictable schlock.

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Re: Most complex Bacharach song ever

Postby blueonblue » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:45 am

Just a couple more.....
Joss Stone also did a fantastic 'live' version at Burt's BBC tribute concert last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L__wS8FNkxw

And two Bacharach/ David 'evergreen's....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4hDJ9jIspk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiZJ1XW1HX4

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Re: Most complex Bacharach song ever

Postby vincent.cole » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:35 pm

Bonjour Blue!

How about this one by Dionne.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kzw70otb1w

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Re: Most complex Bacharach song ever

Postby An Enormous BB Fan » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:53 pm

You're right, I would have picked "Promises, Promises."

Does "South American Getaway" qualify as a song? I don't think so, even though it is sung, albeit in "scat."

"Anyone Who Had A Heart," I think, is pretty complex. Didn't Burt say that even the Count Basie Orchestra had a problem with it?
"Alfie" is pretty complex.
What about "Promise Her Anything"? Try singing that one. Same thing with "A House Is Not A Home." Try finding the first syllable of "suddenly" when the lyric goes, "Now and then, I call your name, and suddenly your face appears..."
"Finders Of Lost Loves" changes keys right in the middle of the song.
"Who Is Gonna Love me?" is not easy at all.

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Re: Most complex Bacharach song ever

Postby Hank » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:25 pm

Amazing to see Dionne sing that version of Who Gets The Guy. So effortless. Phenomenal.

I feel under-qualified to evaluate song complexity but these seem like they belong on this list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj4ijgUhpLA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ByJ1C0iR4


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